THIS, Dan Slott, is just a small example of the racism you were getting called out on in regards to NORAH WINTERS. Because black men have never had to contend with the big black dick to satiate white women trope in the media ever. But oh wait, Norah Winters can’t possibly be racist, after all, she’s fucking a black guy.
Between that and the manual labor crack, you are following Joe Kelly quite well in the rampant racefail.
But more on Norah “Grand Wizard In Training” Winters in a bit.
Let’s talk about the epic fail that is Dan Slott and how he’s a perfect example of HOW NOT to show your ass on the internet. Specifically spamming this very blog after being called out on his racism. And how we here at Ars Marginal DON’T PLAY THAT SHIT!!!
But in order to truly appreciate this sad sordid saga, a little backstory of what’s been brewing over the last couple of weeks is in order.
While Slott is notorious for online beef with fans, it was the following exchange which set all of the events of this latest episode in motion:
Recently over on Comic Book Resources, a member by the name of Ramage made the following comment:
It is jus a paycheck for Slott anyway. He’s not a real fan. A real fan would never work for a company that betrays fans that way. A few years from now he’ll be working in some other medium and telling people how he was there for the dying days of the comic book. He’ll proud of it claiming he gave it a viking death. He’ll be laughing at all of us who ever cared for a drawn character owned by a huge corporation that we couldn’t influence. “Simps,” he’ll call us. Then he will go back to scripting whatever reality show has hired him to be a staff writer and go home to his supermodel wife and have amazing multipositioned sex. And he’ll get letters from his kids in Ivy League schools and he’ll brag about how he dragged the last few dollars out of SPider-man before he become just another guy in costume a disneyworld.
Yes I am laying it on heavy.
As a guy who turned down a side job this year for a paycheck that would’ve been over a third of his yearly income– BECAUSE it would’ve meant cutting back on his not-so-lucrative comic book writing career– and get in the way of working on his Spider-Man dream job…
…and the guy who slept less than 12 hours over the course of 4 days this week working on a script while he was sick… a guy who finally had to be ORDERED off it by his editor to go see a doctor… and is still in a good deal of pain today…
…this is the first time I think I’ve ever said this to somebody over a comic book message board:
Go fuck yourself.
Go. Fuck. Yourself.
Ramage replied to Slott’s comments:
If only it were anatomically possible.
Jesus Dan, did you read the whole thing? It was so over the top what with the supermodels and ivy league schools and the mustache twirling, I thought it was obvious that I was doing schtick.
Well let me do something I never do on an internet message board either:
I am sincerely sorry if I offended you. I come here to have fun and get some information and sometimes give some feedback. I am relatively new here. I don’t know you personally and or anything about you too much. I saw that you and Wacker are vocal defenders of the One More Day revision and I have an honest dislike of that revision. So I just went off from that.
I don’t come here to get people mad at me and don’t consider it a badge of honor to get told eff you by a comic book creator.
I sincerely apologize. And wish you well. Hope you are on the magazine as long as you want to be.
(I still wish you’d bring back the marriage and answer the deal with the devil problem)
This of course sparked a debate on the standards creators should adhere to on fanboards. Slott has had a number of sycophants rooting him on for sticking it to the “mean fan.”
On his blog Box summed up the dynamic brilliantly:
“I’m also amused by the support Slott has received from the Bleeding Cool commenters, if only because it reminds me so much of the Tea Party protesters who earn working-class wages but subscribe to Ayn Rand Objectivism nonetheless, since both groups grow incensed at any suggestion that those who already possess the most power and privilege within a given system should have their unchecked entitlement challenged in any way by critics, even though those who most strongly defend the supposed rights of the powerful and privileged to retain their entitlements are just as likely to be shortchanged by such a system as those who dare to criticize it.
Both groups’ motives for acting against their own interests are likewise similar, since just as the blue-collar workers who would benefit from government aid will rail against it on the grounds that they themselves might one day be rich, and they despise the notion that they might have to pay higher taxes if and when this reversal of fortune ever comes to pass, so too do the readers who defend a famous writer’s temper-tantrums and scorn for his own audience do so because they fantasize that, one day, they’ll be famous authors too, and they’ll be damned if they give up any pretext to treat their own imagined future audiences like shit.
Except that, in the meantime, the low-income teabaggers who cry out against wealth redistribution that would take a little from the rich to give a lot to the poor are themselves still among the poor, and the readers who praise supposedly “professional” writers for their disproportionate responses to their fandoms’ negativity are themselves still among those audiences that those writers feel entitled to treat with such dismissive contempt.”
Personally I don’t expect comic book creators to act as punching bags. I’m well aware of the fact that there are some obnoxious douchebags in comic book fandom. Hell, my posts regarding my modding of Scans Daily is a testament to that. And if this commenter had say insulted Slott’s family, threatened his life, or made a bigoted comment, that would’ve been one thing. But telling a fan to go fuck themselves because they said you weren’t real fan and you were only collecting a paycheck. Really? And on top of that they were being satiric. Seriously???
I wish I could say it stopped there but well, it didn’t.
Despite claims of wanting the matter to go away, Slott then called Box out and accused him of threatening his life by claiming Box stated that Slott should “die in a fire.” Yes that popular internet expression. Only problem is, Box never stated it. In fact he went back to all of his blog posts and forums to make sure he hadn’t said it and possibly forgot about it. Several commenters have stated that Slott is confusing Box with another member but Slott insists, despite not having any evidence it was Box.
And then of course let’s not forget Slott’s been beefing with the Spider-Man Crawlspace and accusing them of “hacking” his Wikipedia page. Like BD said, he’s going after them because they’re an easy target.
Shortly thereafter, Slott began trolling a woman’s personal blog for disagreeing with his recent antics. Yeah internet tough guy is pushing around women. Suffice to say the woman, bitemetechie had more than enough backup.
No longer able to stomach his hypocrisy, I replied to Slott as well:
The only comic I’ve picked up in the NuSpidey era was the Obama issue being a proud man who is gay and of both African and Native American descent, it meant a lot to me that Marvel was acknowledging the milestone blacks had achieved in this country with the election of America’s first black president. While I am by no means a fan of the NuSpidey fustercluck, I gave Marvel it’s due on that issue.
So you can imagine how much of a punch to the throat it’s been in regards to seeing Norah (the Grand Wizard In Training) Winters in action making racial slurs about people of color left and right. Oh but wait, she can’t be racist because she’s fucking a black guy. Because African American men have never been demeaned as 3/5 subhuman savages whose only good for our sexual prowess and well endowed penises. Yeah we don’t have to put up with that shit from ignorant white folks everyday in real life. And why straight white men are so invested in our cocks, I have no idea.
Because Latino women have never been insulted and degraded by racist assed white folks.
And no this isn’t about political correctness. It’s about a little gawd damn respect. It’s one thing to watch a rated R Scorcese flick about mobsters and criminals who engage in racist, sexist, and homophobic behavior. They’re bad people. It’s another to see the same unacceptable behavior from an iconic comic book series that’s supposed to be inclusive of everyone. Specifically people of color who are spending our hard earned money to buy these issues. Did you not forget that’s why Spidey has stood the test of time. He’s the underdog everyone can relate to. Not just privileged straight white men. And that “I’m racist to be edgy trope”, that shit has been played out. So if you’re going to call yourself a writer, I’m gonna need you to step your game up.
You make your living on writing a racist character who denigrates people of color and you have the fucking gall to thow a bitchfit online about how your fee fees are hurt and how your character and integrity has been compromised.
You know what, FUCK YOU! You don’t get to get offended about your fee fees being hurt when you engage in the racist fail that is Norah Winters and insult POC readers. You go pick a fight with some fucking kid online because they make a half-assed joke in passing about how you’re not a real fan. You wanna go tell someone to go fuck themselves, go take your own gawd damn advice.
AND NOW THIS! You’re stalking a woman on her own personal fucking blog. Real classy!!!!
And if you invested half as much energy into honing your craft as you did engaging flame wars and cyberstalking, you’d probably put Dickens to shame..
And another thing, by arguing with Box, Bitemetechie and the others, you’ve essentially proved their points for them. Way to go.
Having no response to being called out on his racism, Slott employed the classic tactic of “THE BLACK PERSON IS SOOOOOOO CRAAAAAAAAZEEEEEEEE!!!!” and purposefully misquoting me on his twitter.
You’ll note that he didn’t link to the discussion presumably out of fear of being called out by his readers on intentionally misquoting me.
And let’s talk about Norah Winters. This is a character who regularly engages in some of the most racist behavior this side of Birth Of A Nation.
From issue #576:
Peter Parker: Maybe we should split up. Cover more ground.
Norah Winters: What? And leave little ol’ me in the Big Bad Bronx without any protection? Someone of color might speak to me.
And from issue #606:
Norah Winters: Honey, Pete hasn’t found the stones to ask me out yet, but I’m not your problem.
Peter Parker: Yet? I —
Norah Winters: It’s because your booty looks like it swallowed a sack of dead puppies.
Michelle Gonzales: WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY?!
Norah Winters: Next time someone slides you a plate of rice and beans, grab some ensalada, honey.
Now while much of this was done under writer Joe Kelly’s watch, between a racist white woman joking about an African American’s penis size and that same racist white woman calling another character the racial slur “Manuel Labor” (which by the by, how in the blue hell is this comic rated appropriate for 9-year-olds again?), it’s evident that Slott has no qualms picking up where Kelly left off in the racist tropes writing.
AND THAT IS WHY SLOTT WAS CALLED OUT!!!!
Not able to refute the the truth, he has dodged, misquoted and deflected every time this issue has been mentioned.
He then further proved my point by running on Twitter and actually claiming that Norah Winters wasn’t racist because she’s dating a black guy and that she’s not racist like “those real racists.” Defending white supremacy to person of color. Always a smart play.
Earlier tonight, I found out that Slott trolled and spammed my previous post here on Ars Marginal. It got so ridiculous that RVC Bard was forced to delete his comments and ban Slott.
Clearly someone has learned nothing from this whole ordeal.
Though to Slott’s credit, this has been more entertaining than anything he’s written for Spider-Man.